5.15.2010

Why I’ve Chosen Not To Give A Damn About Interracial Relationships

Over the past few years I’ve found it a better use of my time to assess situations from the standpoint of asking how it affects MY life. This applies both personally and professionally…getting caught up in the weeds is not my thing. If there’s no direct impact then I use that internal space to embrace or deal with something that does, like my own desires and experiences. I came to this cut and dried approach when I realized how much valuable energy I wasted on getting in a huff about ish that didn’t have anything to do with me. Having an opinion about something is one thing, but when it becomes an active internal protest it is a waste of time. If I’m offended every time someone does something that is against what I feel is best or makes choices that differ from what I would’ve that’s a source of extreme exhaustion for me. 

This brings me to the topic of interracial (IR) dating and marriage. Undoubtedly, this is a complex issue given history, the ever-increasing misogyny of black women and a host of other problems that remain open wounds and need to be addressed...just not here. Figuring this out is not something I want or have time to tackle, but what I will say is that my opinion won’t change or fix anything that seems broken with black relationships in general. Throw in the disdain for IR relationships and you have quite the cauldron of hot topics. One that really only directly affects a small slice of society yet looms large in the minds of those who disagree with it.

Perhaps it’s because I don’t see the choices of others as a personal attack. Seeing an IR couple doesn’t cause any anger to rise in me. Admittedly, this has not always been the case. It wasn’t until I seriously considered why this would evoke a personal emotional response did I realize what a waste of time it is. Not to mention, a somewhat two-faced reaction given the diversity of my family and friends.

Jill Scott caused a stir and labeled as bitter and racist a couple of months ago when she shared her thoughts on IR dating in Essence and during a CNN interview.

Sidenote…I don’t read Essence much but do they feature stories about black love and relationship-building these days? Just wondering. The state of interpersonal black relationships disturbs me and is in need of serious resuscitation, but is one worthy of its own post.

You can form your own opinion about Jill's thoughts on the issue so my two cents will be brief. I'm well aware of the way in which personal experiences shape our opinions. I agree with her about the sting of history and being overlooked as black women whose intentions are to love, but are often seen as overbearing, too picky and insert your favorite adjective here. However, I refuse to allow this to lessen my love for black men. Those who feel this way are obviously not worthy of my attention, concern or ardor anyway. Love is just that…if you love someone for who they are, that’s cool. It can't be called love if it’s based on the hue of one’s skin, plain and simple.

What does tick me off is black men who date/marry white women as some impotent statement about their disgust of black women. The thought that some black men feel black women are "too hard" on them, always angry or require too much says something about them not us. I don’t have time for a history lesson, but the truth is that any brotha who finds it easier to deflect his shortcomings on black women should feel free to keep it moving. The truth is that the issue is much deeper than it appears and is often one of inadequacy rather than anything remotely valid. A quandary that can be repaired by taking an honest, insightful look at oneself first.

Oh, I forgot to mention the what spurred this post. We rarely hear what white women think about this, so a guest post on Max’s site was enlightening yet confusing but again, who am I to say. Check out "Max, I am a white woman who dates Black men, but I absolutely abhor other white women who do the same. What do you think about that?".

20 points of view:

  1. OUUUUUWEEEEEE Miss Curvy, I am loving you more and more! I felt that post all the way here in Iowa. But check this, I am.... NOT... going to read Max's post! I mean, why should I or better yet, why would I?

    Although I am a man, I feel just like you. There's nothing to be gained by reading that mess. I already know the ending to that story. And I don't like it. I am sho glad you had the courage to say... "I am black, and proud, and I don't care who doesn't like it. Love me or leave me alone!" Five stars for this post.

    Btw, this was very well written and thanks for putting me on your blogroll. I know I am in a good place.
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  2. This is one post I could keep reading over and over again and never get tired! This post was well written! I've come across black men with that mentality and I used to be so enraged at the rubbish they spill until I just adviced myself..I'm like:What's my biz? its oyur funeral!
    Nice post
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  3. Brilliant subject matter, ma.

    When you REALLY break it down, beyond those hideous, heinous h's of: history, hatred, hang-ups & hubris... what it all comes to is this: LOVE is Love.

    My love may not look like your version of love, or someone elses version. But it's a heart thing, an emotion-based thing, and not a skin thing. I repeat: Love is love.


    Snatch JOY!

    One.

    Lin
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  4. Great post Curvy, and i happen to not care so much either about who one chooses to date or love. I am pretty much numb about it, in my neighborhood the ratio of IR couples to Black couples are like 75 to 25. Although i must agree with you on the fact that most black men who make this choice seem to be making it out of some ignorant bs that's been fed to them over the years. I won't even go into it because we've heard it all before. I did read the post at Max's and didn't quite understand the WHY of the post...smh, oh well i guess everyone's got an opinion.
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  5. Curvy, this post was fabulous. The main point I loved was when you discussed black men who put down black women to justify their choices. My cousin is in an IR relationship and he did just that when confronted by his sister. I don't care who he dates but it's blatantly obvious that he got with a stupid white chick to make himself feel like a man. That's his insecurity and his problem.

    If a black man dated my best friend who is white, I wouldn't care. Why? Because she's smart and won't let him or anyone else play her. Have u ever noticed how when black men date other races they not only put down black women but they date women who are stupid? They go for chicks who are genuinely dumb and they like her to be non-black b/c then she's strictly arm candy. It's sad.
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  6. Hey CG :) I think as a society we have a label for everything. We stand in long lines looking for ways in which we can say this is this or that is that and you have to either be on one side of the issue or the other.

    But in this world where regardless of race and the opinions of others we as humans face struggles that are unique to just being humans. One is the issue of finding true and lasting love. Love is love as you mentioned and not based on any precursor when it is genuine.

    When you get immature people involved then they base choices off of some sort of vendetta against one group or another. But why do we worry about those types of people anyway? That is not ever anyone we would want to involve ourselves with.

    In the grand scheme of things there is one man for one woman and vice versa. When you find it, regardless of society's rules about race, hold on to it.
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  7. Damn good post, Curvy! Love it. I could never date a white woman. I don't find em attractive. Never have. Never will.

    I don't understand how a black man will say that a black woman is NOT his option. I don't understand. I just don't
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  8. Go ahead CurveyGurl! This was another excellent piece of work!
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  9. Great writing, and I agree with many of your points.
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  10. Hey CG thanks for putting this out there. Enjoyed your perspective, agree with many of your points, and find it much more interesting than writing about what one had for breakfast. thanks again :-)
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  11. I wrote the piece on Max's blog. Basically I was trying to make the point that more often then not IR relationships are based not on love, but instead on superficial stereotypes. And it upsets me to see white women in relationships with Black men, and having Black children yet espousing racist views towards the majority of Black people, especially Black women. And, as I said in my post, I will not date a man who wants to date only white women, because more often then not, he disrespects Black women and idealizes white women. I do not want to date a man who only wants me because of a stereotyped idea of what it means to be with a white woman as opposed to a Black woman.
    I would not be opposed to and IR relationship between a man and a woman who are together because of LOVE, and work to end racism and stereotyping. Unfortunately from my experience, most IR relationship are not like that.
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  12. @All - This is undoubtedly a hot button issue, so I'm glad I had an opp to share my view.

    @Joanna ~ Thanks for stopping by. I agree that it's shameful to connect with another solely based on stereotypes. However, in my experience, it's not prevalent among my fam and friends who have chosen to connect with men and women of different races.

    Anyone with knowledge of self and exposure to a variety of people knows these are false, superficial stereotypes promoted mainly by the media. I realize this is a multifaceted issue that also involves an individual's personal experiences.

    Deliberately, I don't have any personal relationships with any black men who are small-minded enough to believe or perpetuate these stereotypes. For me to say I'm against IR relationships across the board is something that doesn't sit well with me as I noted, it would be a two-faced statement given my circle of fam and friends.

    As with all those who take time to comment, I appreciate your viewpoint and welcome an opp to share dialogue.
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  13. Great post!

    I, too, get ticked off by men who specifically don't date black women based on these stereotypes because I don't buy it. I don't buy that all black women are "difficult", "too hard" on them, or "require too much from them," just as I don't buy that all non-black women are all the opposite. I really don't believe in putting people under specific umbrellas like that. It's a cop out.
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  14. Ugh, wrong link before. Womp. LOL!
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  15. I agree with some of your points. And some are eye openers. We have our own perspective in those details.
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  16. What stuck with me is you made me feel ashamed of myself, I am also very against IR relationships and I need to get out of that mindset as they dont directly affect me and my own mother is in one. This was an awakening post babe, very enjoyable
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  17. "I am black, and proud, and I don't care who doesn't like it. Love me or leave me alone!" AMEN to this! this should all go to all the races. just be proud of who you are and never mind those criticizing us they just don't have better things to do.
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  18. @Brownngirl ~ Hey chica! Yeah, I don't think it's necessary to say these things, especially if it's a way to somehow justify the reason they chose to date women of other races. Says more about their insecurity than anything else.

    @dining room tables ~ Thanks for commenting.

    @Angel ~ Hey sis! It wasn't my intention to make anyone feel ashamed, but I will say that this often arises when our truest self doesn't match what we know to be true or right. Thanks for your honesty as always :-)!

    @pinkee ~ Yes, indeed, it would make the world a better place. Not sure if I'll see it in my lifetime, but I have hope. Thanks for stopping by!
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